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The following was posted on artconsult.com, Lena Kiper's official business website, today:
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????? ????? ?????????? ?????? ??????????? ???? ?????????? ????????? ??????? ??????? ? ?????? ???-????? ??? ????? ???????.

Elena Kiper has offered to be the new management for TATU, has came up with an ingenious concept for the second album and for the first hit-single for this album.


OMG, this is exactly what I have been praying for! Grin I hope t.A.T.u. says yes to the offer, the music would get back to where it is supposed to be and be excellent. I loved Kiper when she was with t.A.T.u., I love her with Nichya, and I would love to see what she could do to get t.A.T.u. back on top, because she is an genious writer!
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Is this true?? Because if it is, maybe finnaly there's a light at the end of the tunel!
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wow thats excellent new Thumb Grin yeah hope they do take it
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I'm close to crying this is such good news!!!!! OMG, I really hope they say yes. Please. Thank you so much for this news.
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Bahh!!

Wow, that'd be good if they said yes. Who knows what kind of potential they can reach seeing as it was stifled by Ivan. Kiper came up with their original "concept" it'll be interesting to see what her new "concept" for them would be... Well, last time she saw Show me Love (Fucking Amal) and was reportedly inspired by that... I wonder what she's been watching lately... Perhaps Better than Chocolate?? Hehehe, the L word? wooo!! I wouldn't be surprised if Julia and Lena jumped at this opportunity, seeing how they were pushing Ivan to get work done on their songs... Unless those rumours about Kiper treating them like puppets is true, that would suck, but I'm sure that's just bullshit created by Ivan... I mean, apparently Nichya isn't doing so bad, right? I wonder if she'd be able to re-establish contact with Galoyan and Trevor Horn? Perhaps, since Ivan is out of the picture, and maybe they'll have even more creative input seeing as Ivan won't be poking his nose into everyone's business like it's his own... Wooo well we'll just have to hold on and see...
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They had better say yes, elena was a creative genius! Grin
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Alright! This is a dream come true! Kiper knows what she's doing in this buisness. This is great news! I hope they say yes! Ohh! I just need to hug! Hug
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wooo woooo some good news at last *hopes they say yes* omg i feel soo excited...please let it be true and they say yes.
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Interesting Hmmm laugh

On one hand, I think it would be a good idea is they accepted the offer. On the other hand, having heard all the crap Kiper said about the girls in the reality show, I would be a little cautious and supspicious... Well, it's not for me to decide :)

Anyway, could you please post the link to the full article, i can't find it...


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Thank you for posting this information, malchikgej04! :thumbsup:

This would be very good news indeed, if what is posted at the artconsult website is correct. Smile ::crosses fingers:: Elena Kiper might very well be the right person at the right time to release Yulia and Lena from the circumstances they are in now. I think she has the talent, the brains, the connections, and, last but not least, the past experience with Yulia and Lena, to do the job of resurrecting them as a successful and interesting musical duo. Let's just hope that they will accept her offer. ::crosses fingers once more::

One small correction to malchikgej04's post: the artconsult website does not have .com but .ru as domain name extension. The crucial information is here, under the date "25<03<04":
http://www.artconsult.ru/news.shtml
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It's true!!!! You can feel it!!!!!! Lena Kiper wants to work with Yulia and Lena again!!!!! Yea!!!!!
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WOW!!
That would be great! and there would be a second album as good as the first i hope, because kiper lyrics were fantastic...I hope it's true and it would be on behalf of the girls...I would love to hear her new cd some day...soon
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elf wrote:
Interesting Hmmm laugh

On one hand, I think it would be a good idea is they accepted the offer. On the other hand, having heard all the crap Kiper said about the girls in the reality show, I would be a little cautious and supspicious... Well, it's not for me to decide :)

Anyway, could you please post the link to the full article, i can't find it...

I feel the same way, elf.

On the one hand, a new concept for the girls is really good and Kiper is a talent songwriter.
On the other hand she had talked a lot of insulting things about tATu, especially Yulia, in the last months, so I'm not sure about a good team-work after all this.

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Wow thats GREAT news!! I'm realy excited about this! I hope they say yes.
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Nightblue wrote:

One small correction to malchikgej04's post: the artconsult website does not have .com but .ru as domain name extension. The crucial information is here, under the date "25<03<04":
http://www.artconsult.ru/news.shtml

Thanks Nightblue. I made a typo in my excitement, lol.

I am glad to see all the support for Kiper. Usually, hardcore tatu fans don't support her, but her music and genious is extraordinary...exactly what the girls need. As for the things she said about the girls, you have to realize what the girls did to her--they basically denied her any credit! (There was a specific circumstance that I am aware of where they bluntly left her out as part of the songwriting team when asked about who wrote their songs.)
But, now that Ivan is out of the way, I really think a good connection between Lena, Yulia, and Kiper could be established. I am hoping because Kiper is my favorite songwriter. If she could get back with Galoyan we'd have musical heaven! I hope the girls say yes..although I am a little worried because didn't some say they had "unofficialy" got a new manager?
At any rate, yes, this source can be trusted....it is Elena's official site that deals with her company ArtConsult (it heads all her projects: Nichya, once tatu, Smash, Dusha, Slava, etc). All that is left is word from tatu.
Until then, I recommend you all to Kiper's own group Nichya if you have not already checked them out. If you have been against her because of resentment, now is the time to stop it. Check Nichya out, it will show you what she can do with tatu, because Nichya's music rocks too! They have an album due out soon, I know it is going to help me wait until tatu's next album is released. Now lets get praying...heck, if anyone knows how to contact Lena and Yulia, tell us so we can send letters to urge them to accept! Grin
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Woooo w00t

I hope they say yes Thumb That's great news!Thanks for posting this LaLa
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malchikgej04 wrote:

As for the things she said about the girls, you have to realize what the girls did to her--they basically denied her any credit! (There was a specific circumstance that I am aware of where they bluntly left her out as part of the songwriting team when asked about who wrote their songs.)


It's a little questionable whether she deserves all the credit she claims. The girls seem to think that Galoyan made a much greater contribution to their album, judging from their monologues in RS (and who would know better?). Of course, she did come up with the idea for Ya Soshla S Uma, which made Tatu popular in Russia but, it seem she wants the girls to thank her for the rest of their lifes for that.

I am not trying to judge them. Whether she was justified in saying those things about the girls does not really make any difference. The fact remains that she did say some nasty stuff and the girls don't seem to apreciate her either. If she really feels that way, I don't think the girls should work with her.
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Fantastic news! *hops around* Thumb
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The photo of Yulia sitting on the toilet in elfís avatar, is supposedly a Kiper creation.
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If this deal goes through it will breathe life into Tatu once again. Elena Kiper has so many of the ideas that Yul and Lena need in order to enter into the next chapter of their story together. I think that Elena is about 28 years old and she can map the story line for 18-21 year old girls and the challenges that face the girl becoming a woman. Elena is so in touch with the sensual nature of women that this is a match made in heaven. Please let it be. I can't wait to hear the music, see the video and go to the concerts. Please make it happen!!!
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RowerB wrote:
The photo of Yulia sitting on the toilet in elfís avatar, is supposedly a Kiper creation.


Not true . . . that was Ivan. Although the bathroom toilet picture has been a fantasy picture for years and I can understand why the Tatu marketeers tried to follow protocol. That is not the Elena Kiper that is out there today. She is so hot! Give it a chance!
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Hm, well, I don't know. I'm a bit undecided. She's said so much bad stuff about them, especially about Yulia - so who knows if the girls even wanna work with her again. On the other hand, she seems to be a good producer/manager, and I kind of like Nichya's music (though in my opinion it's not of the same quality as tAtu's music). So given that the girls are quite professional, they might consider giving Kiper another chance. They are also grown-ups by now, so they'd be very much in control of what's happening. We'll see. I must say, I quite like the idea of them being managed by a woman actually.

Thanks for the info, malchikgej04.

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bpro wrote:
RowerB wrote:
The photo of Yulia sitting on the toilet in elfís avatar, is supposedly a Kiper creation.


Not true . . . that was Ivan. Although the bathroom toilet picture has been a fantasy picture for years and I can understand why the Tatu marketeers tried to follow protocol. That is not the Elena Kiper that is out there today. She is so hot! Give it a chance!

How can you be so sure that this was Ivan's creation? All I know is that it was Kiper who created the first stage-performances and choreographies for the girls. And those performances in the white underwear were the most oversexed and almost porn-like outfits I've ever seen on the girls.
So excuse me for not being too excited - but when she claims she left the group because Ivan made the project too oversexed - it makes her a bit of a hypocrite in my eyes.

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P.S.: I just found this statement on tatysite.net, thanks to coolasfcuk for pointing out!

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oh la la... Ive been to that artconsult.ru website couple times before - and t.A.T.u. has always been there under projects... but it is now the first time i notice that those BAD photosessions of Yulia on the toilet with her thong at her knees were actually "producing and creative" by Lena Kiper! ...
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bpro wrote:
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The photo of Yulia sitting on the toilet in elfís avatar, is supposedly a Kiper creation.


Not true . . . that was Ivan.


It was Kiper's not very sensual creation Rolleyes , see http://www.artconsult.ru/projects.shtml under No1:
"???????? - ??????? ?????????, ??????? - ??????? ????????. ?????????, ??????? - ???? ?????."

Artconsult is Kiper's company by the way, and Artconsult was the source that published the "news" about the girls suing Neformat, and their new management making a proposal for Kiper to produce their new album etc.


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And those performances in the white underwear were the most oversexed and almost porn-like outfits I've ever seen on the girls. So excuse me for not being too excited - but when she claims she left the group because Ivan made the project too oversexed - it makes her a bit of a hypocrite in my eyes.


Completely agree! Well said. Smile
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Hmmmmmm.

I think that Julia and Lena should except Elena's offer and forgive her. If Elena can get over her work that she put together being disclaimed from her then julia and lena can get over some words. But I think this could cause conflicts between tatu and elena. After all, people do forgive but they don't forget
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On one hand, I think it would be a good idea is they accepted the offer. On the other hand, having heard all the crap Kiper said about the girls in the reality show, I would be a little cautious and supspicious... Well, it's not for me to decide Smile

helloooo...now when i public known that the scenario for TaTu in Podnebesnaja was written six moths before the show does it matter what she had to say??? The show is over..wasnt succes so lets hope there will be new album Wink
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True friends can forgive one another and kiss and make up. The wonderful and beautiful times that true friends have together always out-weigh the few arguments they have in between. Lena Kiper and Yulia and Lena probably made up months ago, and it was probably Lena Kiper that helped the girls finally leave Ivan.
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wow...that was really great news Thumb . Better they had to say "YES!!!". Thumb
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Well she is a hell of a lot better then Ivan... That's all I'm gonna say or I am gonna piss myself off.
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Pretty undecided on this one.

The good thing is that Kiper is a very creative person and I have little doubt She would come up with some great material but on the other hand both sides have been on bad terms for a while now (so it could just blow up again out of nowhere) plus from what has been said and written over the years Kiper seems to be not that much different from Ivan as far as control goes she just seems smarter plus like what has already been said She was apparently the one who came up with their *ahem* more controversial early dance routines which I would rather see left in the past.

Hell maybe out of childish spite she made the offer simply to rub their faces in the dirt over their current situation (or to just get back at Ivan) but thats probably not the case.

Anyway lets just wait and see as well as hope things go well Thumb
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Well she is a hell of a lot better then Ivan... That's all I'm gonna say or I am gonna piss myself off.
ok? Anway, I'm glad that there are no hard feelings. Though of course she could think of seeking revenage and use Tatu since her on group was a failure. I guess Tatu would switch labels if they were to join Lena Kipper, because why would Kipper work with neformat again. I just want a new complete kick ass album.
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hey malchikgej04, maybe you could set up a poll on this, would be interesting to see the general consensus on this..
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Well she is a hell of a lot better then Ivan... That's all I'm gonna say or I am gonna piss myself off.
ok? Anway, I'm glad that there are no hard feelings. Though of course she could think of seeking revenage and use Tatu since her on group was a failure.

wtf are you talking about? lol. First of all, Nichya has not even released an album yet, so how could it be a failure? Second, their single "Nichya" and video has topped charts in Russia and Czech republic, beating videos such as Britney Spears "Toxic." Plus, she is involved in numerous other projects, such as the very successful group SMASH!! I am so tired of this crap about Kiper having to use t.A.T.u. to become famous. No...she doesn't need them, she already is doing quite well, just listen to her music and find out about her and you can see! I think she wants to help t.A.T.u. because she sees what they can become.

Anyways, a little update. Since I run the official fansite for Nichya, Nichya stays in contact from time to time, well Sergey, a partner of the Nichya group has this to say on our forum:
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well, in fact, first tatu offered lena to work together again
but she didn't want to get too close to them, just produce a few songs and a new concept
in fact, she didn'tt even want to be featured as an author - only as a producer

and now she's got some ideas and shown them to tatu's management. if they agree with what she offers than there'll be a collaboration again

but we'll see


Maybe Lena doesn't want to have all the responsibility of the manager just yet, but rather wants to be on the team again. I say this because she has obviously changed her previous lack of desire to not work with them to wanting to and because Sergey mentions she showed some ideas to tatu's
new management. So, tatu already have a management team then, Lena must just want to work on it with them. Anyways, just thought I'd give you more of an official word.
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I think that the infamous "porn-esque" shoots and dance moves won't be a problem now. Lena nad Yulia are grown women now, who obviously know how to say "no" to things they don't like. Those shoots and dances were made when they were much younger and circumstances were diffrent. I'm sure that if they do go with Kipper they'll have learned enough from bieng with Ivan too know how to do a contract and get what they need to be succesful again.
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I agree, now that they have split with Ivan they probably have a lot more sence and confidence to say and do what they want and not be used like before.
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Kiper was never opposed to sensuality, you can even see it prevelant in her work today. I think she had a problem with Ivan simply creating nothing but scandals and perversion without any new work. I think she also had a problem with Ivan period. Who doesn't? As far as the "white underwear routine" I'm sorry but that was my favorite stage performance and I thought it was a cool dance creation by Elena.

Finally, Elena's recent comments about the Tatu youth image being dead and that the project would be dead in 2 years proved to be true. The project needs new input and new direction. Kiper can provide a lot of fuel to get Tatu going in the right direction, my opinion. She is not a hypocrite.
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well, in fact, first tatu offered lena to work together again
but she didn't want to get too close to them, just produce a few songs and a new concept
in fact, she didn'tt even want to be featured as an author - only as a producer

and now she's got some ideas and shown them to tatu's management. if they agree with what she offers than there'll be a collaboration again

but we'll see

Thanks for posting this clarification, malchikgej04. If apparently t.A.Tu. approached Elena Kiper and she didn't reject this move towards her, this tells me that Yulia and Lena on the one hand and Elena Kiper on the other hand can get over their hard feelings from the past. I think that we as t.A.t.u. or Nichya fans, who have no personal involvement in these past unpleasantries, should be able to do the same then.


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